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Dialog makes everything possible

Jean-Charles Putzolu

Georges Salines is a doctor. Azdyne Amimour is a shop owner. Both had an eventful life. Georges practiced his profession in several countries, eventually he settled with his family in Paris. Azdyne is an adventurer whose life doesn't seem to fit into one. After traveling the world over, he decided to take root in the Paris area. Georges is not a believer. He calls himself an atheist "with Christian roots". Azdyne is a Muslim, he practices his faith, but not so much. However, he is deeply connected to the values ​​of Islam.

Seen in this way, these two men might never have met. But the events of November 13, 2015 turned her life in a different direction.

Georges' daughter Lola was at the Bataclan that evening to attend the concert of the American rock band "Eagles of Death Metal" in the famous Parisian location. Lola is 28 years old and works in children's literature. She even started her own company. She is happy, spends most of the time at work, but drives away whenever possible. Traveling is in her family's genes, so to speak. Travel quenches her thirst for knowledge, offers her escape opportunities and corresponds to her love for nature. Lola dies from two bullets that evening.

Azdyne has lost contact with his son Samy. Relations with him have been strained in recent years, and by the evening of November 13, 2015, he has no idea where he might be. Azdyne and his wife Mouna are informed a little later that Samy is one of the three Bataclan assassins.

On the evening of November 13, 2015, Paris went through hell for 33 minutes. Seven terrorists who claim to be members of the so-called Islamic State have carried out attacks in three different locations in the capital. A suicide bomber blows himself up in front of the Stade de France at 9:20 p.m. The explosion can also be felt on the field where the French national team faces the German selection. Some players are surprised by the noise, they raise their heads - but the game continues. François Hollande leaves the stadium just moments after the detonation. He is informed of the events and brought to the crisis team.

Shortly afterwards, at 9.25 p.m., three more terrorists with Kalashnikovs showed up in another part of Paris. Without a break, they shoot at the people sitting in the street cafes on Rue de la Fontaine-au-Roy. The assassins arrive on Rue de Charonne at 9:36 p.m. and the bloodbath continues. The passers-by have no chance.

Shortly afterwards, the third command in the Bataclan comes into action. 1,500 people attend the concert there. Three armed men enter the location and shoot around indescribably, indescribable scenes.

A country turned upside down

In the three attacks carried out at the same time, 130 people died and 350 were wounded. They turned a country upside down. And they changed the lives of Georges and Azdyne. Azdyne's son Samy was killed by police that night along with six other terrorists.

Samy had "trained" in Syria. He had joined the self-proclaimed Islamic State. Azdyne, who strongly condemned fundamentalism, traveled after him and tried to bring him to his senses. Without success. Today the father feels guilty: “What did I do that my son got on this path?” This question haunts him, like many others. He takes part in meetings of families who, like himself, have lost children to jihad and do not understand it. Even if this shared sympathy helps him, there is still something missing to deal with his grief. Because Azdyne is also in mourning.

The days after the attack are marked by consternation

After the attacks, Georges founds an association of families of the victims and survivors. For some time he took over the chairmanship of "13onze15, Fraternity and Truth", so the name of the association. His name kept appearing in interviews and statements. Georges is also in mourning. The association and the book he wrote immediately after the attacks, “The Unspeakable from A to Z”, serve him as therapy to try to overcome the impossible. He finds no consolation in prayer because he does not believe. On the other hand, he does not feel hatred, anger or revenge. He doesn't understand “the absurd,” he says.

Azdyne has to go further to overcome “his” impossible. The self-help groups in which he has participated do not satisfy his search without his being able to really explain it. He feels that he has to see what happens on the other side.

The other side - these are the victims' families. Via a mutual contact, Azdyne asks to meet Georges. It's the beginning of 2017, and it was a little over a year ago.

Georges receives a call

Georges receives a call conveying Azdyne's request. He is surprised by the request, astonished, a little confused. But he takes the time to think about it and asks himself many questions: Why does the father of a Bataclan terrorist want to meet him? Is he ready to meet the boy’s father who may be his daughter’s murderer?

He agrees to the meeting. Georges tells himself that this man who wants to see him is ultimately also a victim, a father who has lost a son. He concludes that Samy, the terrorist, is also a victim; a victim of the crazy ideas to which he and other fundamentalists cling, but which have been instilled in them by skilled manipulators. At the time of the inquiry, Georges was assured that Azdyne does not share any of the fundamentalist ideas of those who instrumentalize his religion. A friend who, like him, belongs to the victims' association, accompanies him to the meeting in a café in the Bastille district in central Paris.

The memorial plaque with the names of the victims. In the penultimate line on the left is the name of Lola, Georges' daughter

Azdyne comes through the door. Georges gets up, a little tense. This also applies to Azdyne, who is secretly convinced that Georges was more courageous than him in his willingness to accept the meeting. "I had already lost everything," says Azdyne, "I was on the wrong side of the story". “By agreeing to meet with me, George had a lot more to lose,” he adds. “He is a man known to the media, president of a victims' association, who appears on radio and television. So what will people think of him when they find out he's met the father of a terrorist? "

Georges had also asked himself these questions. Of course, he had spoken to those around him about the meeting before accepting it. The idea met with a lot of approval - but not everywhere. Georges was often asked to explain his position. But sometimes he even gave up trying to explain it to those who didn't want to understand. Then Georges did not try with all his might to convince his counterpart of his attitude - he trusted his feeling that the wounds are still open and painful and that everyone has to find his own way of healing. The way of Georges, like that of Azdyne, passes through this cafe near the Bastille.

On this February morning in 2017, Azdyne held out his hand to Georges. The two hands meet, it becomes a handshake. You sit down and introduce yourself. The initially faltering conversation quickly takes on a more relaxed tone. "Azdyne is a touching person," says George. And adds: "captivating."

They talk about their lives, their families, and of course Lola and Samy, although this is painful for both men. "It was my therapy," says Azdyne. “I didn't visit a psychologist after the bombing. This was suggested to me, but it wasn't right for me. I wanted to overcome my tragedy on my own. ”Meeting Georges enabled him to come full circle.

At one of the many meetings in a bar in Paris

The two men meet often. Your relationship grows deeper. The meetings always take place in a café or restaurant, never at one or the other's home. A certain distance is always maintained.

More and more they come to the conviction that their atypical common path can become a message. The more time they spend together, the more they talk to each other, the more clearly they recognize that this dialogue, their dialogue, has great power in it. It helps to overcome everything that ultimately leads to division in a society: feelings of hatred, the possible thirst for revenge, misunderstandings. Together, these two different men send a message that is exactly the opposite of that of the terrorists: anything is possible with dialogue.

In order for this message to go beyond their numerous encounters, Georges and Azdyne decide to write a book and tell their story, their conversations, their approach and their differences in it. Because of course there are, but they are no longer the cause of division. They have not been and probably never will be overcome - but they have been understood and accepted.

They chose the title for their book: "Il nous reste les mots", "We have the words".

The cover of the book that Azdyne Amimour and Georges Salines wrote together